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Social media and its place in your plan?

With these fires in Oregon, many agencies are referring the public to their social media sites for the most up-to-date information. However, I’m finding it to be counterproductive due to the sheer amount of false information and rumors being spread. Where do you, as a part of being prepared, draw the line between the value of obtaining verified information on current and potential emergency information on social media, versus unfollowing social media entirely and seeking facts from local, regional and national organization sites exclusively? I’m literally ready to walk away from social media, but part of me wonders if I would be giving up a necessary news resource as a part of my being aware of current and evolving situations. 

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Where do you keep your car fire extinguisher?

Feels like an exceedingly mundane thing to post about under the circumstances, but: I was digging back through the blog archives over the holidays and read somewhere (either on TP or in a linked article) that one should keep one’s car fire extinguisher within reach of the driver’s seat. Makes sense, but after driving around for a few days with my fire extinguisher rolling around in the passenger side footwell, I can’t help feeling like it would be a super dangerous projectile in an accident. Does anyone have a good method or approach for safely securing their fire extinguisher within reach of the driver’s seat?

And note I don’t have one of those yawning cavern center console bins with a locking lid, so I’m thinking about strapping the thing to the seat somehow.

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Is the blog being retired?

Does anyone know if the Blog portion of this site is being retired?  There were 2-3 entries per week before, but nothing has been posted there for almost 2 weeks now.  Hopefully it’s just the staff taking vacation time over the holidays, because the Blog was the main way I connected with and used the site.  Hope everyone is staying healthy and safe.

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What’s the best contractor bag size and thickness for bug out bags?

This is hopefully a simple question. I’m upgrading the trash bags in my BOB to the contractor bags recommended on this site. I’ve never bought contractor bags, so I don’t have a feel for their bulkiness or weight or even size really. I know that the premium ones are 42 gallons and 3 mil. Is this what’s recommended? I don’t want to overkill and carry more weight and bulk than necessary. What kind of contractor-type bags do folks carry?

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Batteries and BoBs

I’m working on getting the BoBs set up for myself and my family.  Today I was adding headlamps, which take batteries.  Is there consensus about storing them with the batteries in or adjacent?  Any tips on tracking this kind of thing. Thanks!

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Safety Goggles for Protesting

I exercise my first amendment rights to peaceable assembly from time to time, although covid certainly makes me think twice about being anywhere in a large group these days. Nonetheless, having seen footage of recent protests, I decided I should get a pair of safety goggles for any future protests I might attend. I have three main criteria:

1. Passes MIL-PRF 32432 High Velocity Impact Standards. Should my eye have the misfortune to encounter a rubber bullet, I would like to still be able to see with that eye subsequently.

2. Doesn’t make me a target. If I’m ostentatiously covered in protective gear, that might be seen as an invitation to attack me. It also makes it easier to claim that I’m some kind of ‘agitator’. So I would like a pair of goggles that doesn’t look too different from a pair of glasses.

3. Keeps out tear gas. Should fully seal against my face, ideally with a D5 rating (resistant to fine dust).

Other features, such as anti-fog and transition (gets darker in bright light) coatings, comfort, low cost etc. are desirable, but not required.

I’ve spent a couple hours scouring the Internet for such a product, but I have yet to find something that meets more than two of the main criteria. Here are some examples:

Pyramex Safety Torser Safety Goggles: https://www.discountsafetygear.com/pyramex-safety-torser-safety-goggles.html . Does NOT meet criteria 1. Meets criteria 2. Meets criteria 3: creates a pretty good seal (rated D4 for dust, but not D5 for fine dust). Other: cheap, anti fog.

Pyramex SB7080SDT I-Force Sporty Dual Pane Anti-Fog Goggles: https://www.amazon.com/Pyramex-Strap-Temples-Indoor-Outdoor-Anti-Fog-SB7080SDT/dp/B006WPSF72?th=1 . Meets criteria 1. Meets criteria 2. Does not meet criteria 3: might kind of seal against my face if I pulled it extremely tight, has no rating for dust resistance. Other: anti fog, transition coating.

Pyramex GC504TN Capstone Safety Goggles Chemical Green Frame Clear Lens Anti-Fog: https://www.rajsupply.com/pyramex-gc504t.html . Meets criteria 1. Does NOT meet criteria 2: it would be very obvious that I was wearing industrial-grade eye protection. Meets criteria 3 (probably): makes a full seal and has vent caps although it is not specifically dust rated. Other: cheap, anti-fog.

So, does anyone know of a product that does meet all three of my criteria? I suppose if you think my criteria are wrong I’d be interested in hearing your logic. If no such product exists, does anyone have experience modifying eyewear? I’ve thought of trying to add a good seal to a product that meets criteria 1 and 2, but I’d really rather have something that’s been tested and rated.

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Prioritized bare bones go bags on a budget

I want input, but will start things off with a few of my own ideas.

Critical preps are water, shelter, and food.

My first go bag was a daypack I happened to have lying around, with a bottle of water, Anyoo rain poncho, wool sweater, Powerbars, a map, cheap compass, pocketknife, small pad of paper/pencil, Mylar blanket, lighter, boo-boo first aid, and a slim Maglight flashlight. The bag sat in my front closet on top of an old pair of hiking boots with socks stuffed inside.

It sorta covered basics, but in a very cheap and haphazard way. But I didn’t have the money for anything better.

As I became more educated about what a go bag needs to have (thanks, ThePrepared people), I added better gear…but again, still on a budget. Here’s how I did it.

WATER—REI wholesale and sales to the rescue. Bought my metal water bottle and water filters this way.

SHELTER—I still don’t pack a tent in my go bag. Too heavy. But I still use the Anyoo rain poncho ($25/Amazon) because it’s tough and huge when not rolled up. It has eyelets on the hem for use as a shelter or ground sheet.

FOOD—I’m not a fan of indigestion during an emergency, so concentrated Powerbar-like things don’t work for me. Instead, I carry PROBAR (Wholeberry Blast) meal bars. 360 calories per bar. There are cheaper ways to scarf calories, and you can even make your own, which is *very* much cheaper, but you’ll need a vacuum-sealer. I also prefer Mountain High meals, for their ease and nutrition, but they’re expensive. I only carry three of their meals in my go bag, so the expense isn’t such a hit.

CLOTHING—I use Poshmark and sales at outdoor stores. I pick quality…but at a steep discount. Example: I found a Skea down ski jacket for $18. Other good used places: REI wholesale, threadUP, Patagonia Worn Wear. My winter layers (and yours will depend on your climate) are wicking tech poly next to my skin, then wool, fleece, down, rain shell. In summer, it’s wicking tech poly next to my skin, then a SPF camp shirt, a light fleece or down sweater for cooler nights, and a rain/wind shell. I pack each season’s clothing in its own zippered bag and switch them out twice a year. Quality inexpensive brands: Amazon Essentials, Little Donkey Andy, Columbia.

GEAR—Again, sales and the above used clothing/sports outlets carry backpacks and other camping-like gear. I’ll say it again: buy quality, lightly-used items.

FIRST AID—I’ve never been able to figure out a way to do a solid first aid kit on the cheap, so I bought a big first aid bag and filled it—very slowly—over time. (VANQUEST FATPack 7×10)

I will try to do I’ll do a post for home preps on a budget, next.

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A cautionary tale – Living without power in the wake of Hurricane Ida

Living without power after a major storm in LA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/hurricane-ida-no-power/

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Free prepper education through the National Weather Service

https://www.weather.gov/wrn/get-involved

Good morning,

A prepper must continuously learn all the pertinent subjects.

NOAA’s National Weather Service offers some courses … on weather of course … that are ideal. I took the Skywarn class – only a few hours.

Do note much adjustments to classroom meetings during the pandemic. Make the local inquiries and see what fits into one’s plans and programs.  The Moderna CEO made an announcement that the pandemic will end soon.

These in person classes are ideal places that can assist GSOPrepper and Jonnie seeking a local prepper group.  Just mention to someone attending seeking to learn about the other prepper subjects also and wondering if there’s an area group doing the same. The answers are out there. There are “normal” groups of prepper seeking to increase their knowledge.

For relaxation after studies, go to parties at CoCoRa High School …… just joking, just joking !

Preparedness is a de facto requirement of citizenship. FEMA has the ideal philosophy: “Prepare for realistic, worst case scenarios”.

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Check immunizations records; keep current

Virginia Department of Health aware of several confirmed measles cases in Afghan evacuees

Good evening / morning,

It’s not just about the COVID-19 shots / jabs.

Virginia now has some measles cases.

Preppers must not neglect the foundation of immunizations. COVID-19 is new. Measles not so,

Above link tells of introduction of measles via some Afghan arrivals here already infected.

Some of these Afghan evacuees are in 3 week quarantine concurrent with getting immunizations. Some of these evacuees were also phased into the community here without the 21 day quarantine and government-provided shots /jabs.

Check your shot / jab records NOW and keep current.

Here we are fatigued by COVID overwhelming medical facilities and now the additional fatigue from measles.  A hurricane or wildfire evac with measles won’t be happening.

Article uses term “Health leaders”. Easy to identify the problem.

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I’m fed up with losing lists and forgetting stuff

Darn it yet AGAIN I ventured from home in my van and on arrival at my destination I realised I had forgotten a few of the prepping kit items I USUALLY take with me to suppliment my EDC gear. Its my fault because I either forget where I put my check lists OR dont read the list properly and miss an item or to.  I even managed to go on a recce mission once without my camera and notebook.

So I’ve decided to add a visual aid ( poster) on the door to my prep room to try and use it as a prompt to double check I’ve got all I need.

This is my first effort. I always keep food and rations in the van along with PDW gear so its not shown.

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MY GHB KIT 2021

Costco issue warning of shortage, Fox says stock up

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/costco-limit-purchases-supply-chain-inflation-pressure

Could see panic buying again unfortunately

its a similar issue in the UK.

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Fasteners – Important items needed to repair, attach and help you hold it together during a crisis

We think of fasteners as nails, screws, bolts with nuts and washers. Most preppers store a wide variety of these items. But there are other kinds of equally important fasteners to store.

Zip ties are good to have on hand in a variety of lengths with a consideration that white zip ties don’t last as long as black ties will last. Some types of zip ties are reusable.

I also save twist ties, such as the long ones that come with the packaging of certain items. Twist ties also come in packages of garbage bags or can be on bread. I use them to hold inventory tags on my prep item shelves and can be easily moved around.

Rope made of synthetic or natural fibres such as hemp and in different length and weights. Watch the synthetic rope for quality. My husband just found out yesterday that a rope he just bought was not the typical poly rope he believed he had purchased. It will need to be repurposed for a much lighter project so as not to waste it. It was good to find that out before it might have been needed in an emergency.

Don’t forget the importance of string as a fastener. It can be used to bind and hold herbs for drying. Heavier string can be used to macrame a plant holder.

Yarn can repair or bind together when you darn a hole in a sweater or socks. Thread in a variety of basic colors, weights and type cotton and polyester with an large supply of needles of various sizes, plus dressmaker pins are necessary if you need to repair or make clothing. In a long crisis you may need to remake clothing as children grow.

Snaps, hooks and eyes, and a grommet tool with grommets are good to have on hand. What about buttons and zippers? Have a variety of sizes on hand to repair clothing. During a crisis, clothing takes a beating and if it becomes a longer duration, consider the need for have buttons and zippers on hand. 

Bungee cords in a variety of lengths can serve in a range of situations with it’s handy flexibility.

Adhesives are a fastener also and should be on hand to repair a variety of materials. “Shoo goo” is the brand I keep in my prep and regular supply for repairing boots. I have kept boots water tight and in use for many additional years using “Shoo goo.” For certain repairs to boots, I have used clamps to hold the pieces together while it cured for twenty-four hours.

On the subject of boots, keep a good supply of extra boot and shoe laces in your preps.

Superglue doesn’t have the life span of other adhesives, although I keep it on hand for quick repairs of lighter items. I keep Gorilla glue, two-part epoxy glue, wood glue, and ceramic glue on hand. Even acrylic and silicone caulk can be included in glues. I have used acrylic caulk to install small pieces of baseboard.

Tape of various types are also important fasteners. I keep tapes like foil (for sealing HVAC ducts, hockey, masking, tuck (for sealing vapor barrier), duct, and a lot of packing tape for it’s variety of use.

A good staple gun/brad nailer combo with an assortment of each is very important for repairs. Don’t forget household staples and an assortment of bulldog clips. These items are useful for reorganizing hard printed copies of important information as a crisis continues. Also bulldog clips can be hung with items attached and can be used for more than paper.

A pail of roofing repair tar to seal leaks in a roof, roofing nails, and extra shingles can help secure your home if no one is available to repair it during a crisis. Learn how to do it before a disaster happens.

There are many other types of fasteners. To be fully prepared, review all the components of your home and your preps and consider what kind of fasteners you might need in a crisis of a long duration. What might wear out? How could you repair the item?

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The essentials of EDC

My EDC 

If I cannot take it with me, I aint going.

If I cannot travel with it, I don’t go.

If I can not ride or fly with it, I walk or drive.

If I cannot enter with it, I turn away.

If I cannot keep it with me I wont stay..

On my belt and in my pockets.

it does not go in a bag.

My EDC is all or nothing.

Knife

Flash light

Lighter

Compass

Multi Tool

Watch

Wallet

Shades

Cell phone

Cash

Kerchief / Bandana

Hat

Gloves

Pen

Sharpie

Notebook

Flash drive

Mask 

Sanitizer

PDW

Keys plus mini knife sharpener

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Target shooting grouping gets worse as I move to a heavier bullet

I had something interesting happen today. I was shooting 7.62mm 150 grain bullets and this happened…so, I switched ammo to match grade 178 grain and the groups were horrible. Anyone else have a rifle that doesn’t seem to like “the good stuff?”

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How do you prevent your BOB from getting stolen?

In a recent discussion of emergency cash on this forum, it was mentioned that burglars often grab things they can go through later. E.g. backpacks. That started me thinking about my BOB, which is very prominently displayed in my not very large living room. It’s there because I want to be able to grab it and go if I need to, but that also makes it excellent fodder for anyone who might break into my house. Of course I realize that the best remedy for this is to harden the perimeter to our houses, but still…. I’ve put quite a bit of money into my BOB, and I would hate it if all that got stolen.

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The Prepared “app” for your phone

My 12 year old daughter saw me browsing this forum on my phone and asked what I was doing. I explained it was a forum that I’m a member of and what we talk about here. She then asked if it was an app and I told her that they don’t have an application but I can access it from my phone’s web browser. This smart little girl then taught me how I can make it into a sort of app that I can access from my home screen. I’ve been playing around with it for the past two weeks and it has been extremely helpful.

Here’s some instructions on how to make this forum into something called a web app. 

1. Open up https://theprepared.com/forum/ on your browser

2. Click on the side panel which is usually three dots

3. Select ‘Add to home screen’

4. You then name your new app something you want

Here’s what it looks like on an iPhone

I’ve made a folder on my home screen with a link to The Prepared’s main page, the forum, and the blog. It’s been rather handy to just click on this button and be taken directly to the forum or blog so that I don’t miss anything.

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Let’s hear your prepper/survival stories!

I want to hear your stories about when you have used your preps, when you have survived a situation, or just anything along those lines of Prepping Stories.

I personally haven’t survived any major disaster or had to heavily rely on my preps (that’s why I want to hear from you guys), but I do appreciate my Get Home Bag in my car. So many times I’ve needed a snack, a band-aid, some tylenol, or a piece of rope and I’ve been able to go in there and have it when I needed it. My friends at work knew they could come to me for anything, and 90% of the time, I did have it.

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U.S. government debt ceiling / technical default

Greetings, everyone. I’m curious to hear any thoughts on the risk of a U.S. government technical default if the debt ceiling isn’t raised. I’m not an expert in this field, and I’m using terms loosely. I realize that every year the same situation occurs. My thought is that the current political environment might make this year *not* business as usual. Are you making any changes in financial preparedness given your assessment of this risk? Thanks, and thanks to everyone involved in this website.

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Morbid humor helps us cope

So, it’s no coincidence that EMS and military personnel employ gallows humor as a coping mechanism. If it’s ok I think it would be cheering to share some lighter fare to counteract the bad news we prepare for? Here’s my contribution for today, hope others will share some!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/61/c8/2761c8792913a58df247e4c789132c4b.jpg

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Household items rationed

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/costco-warns-customers-over-toilet-paper-delivery-delays

Good morning,

Above link is a reminder to prep.

All last week, Aldi discount grocery had shortages of pizza.

All this stuff is not high tech nor subject to foreign supply sources.

Again: prepare now.

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COVID-19 vaccine passport

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-0ba36f8d413ed199697f2e8a17199988

Good morning,

It’s for domestic use also.

This “document” is the future. The reports say it’s already required for some restaurants.

From what I understand, it now requires a third shot/jab.

I seek the passport for actual travel overseas.

Do note this “passport” effectively defeats much of the terrorists efforts in re their plans to do harm to our society.

All this is in development.  Recommend continue to think about this program. Wouldn’t be shocked if Walmart and other big box stores starts to require vaccine passports.

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Some interesting Prepper Quotes

Some quotes are just good common sense, some slightly extreme ( but not neccessarily wrong)  All are food for thought.

Prepper Quote 1 Never become a refugee, or give up your liberty for a meal.

Prepper Quote 2 Never speak with the media.

Prepper Quote 3 Opsec and Persec above all else.

Prepper Quote 4 Two is one, one is none.

Prepper Quote 5 The Government is not your friend.

Prepper Quote 6 Civilisation is only 3 days of missed meals away from anarchy.

Prepper Quote 7 Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Prepper Quote 8 Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

Prepper Quote 9 Prepping is about PREparing for emergencies.

 Prepper Quote 10 Remember when disaster strikes the time to prepare has passed.

Prepper Quote 11 Before entering / leaving a premise ,stop look and listen for threats.

Prepper Quote 12 Being self sufficient is the best form of insurance.

Prepper Quote 13 A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

Prepper Quote 14 Prepper EDC gear is NOT optional, except for victims.

Prepper Quote 15 When possible always know of MULTIPLE ways out of a Mall / Office/ Building etc.

Prepper Quote 16 If TSHTF then main roads are to be avoided at all cost.

Prepper Quote 17 During a crisis ALWAYS continiously monitor multiple news sources.

Prepper Quote 18 Theres no harm in hoping for the best, so long as you prepared for the worst.

Prepper Quote 19 Your ESSENTIAL EDC gear goes on your person, never in a bag.

Prepper Quote 20 Prepping is simply taking insurance to the next level.

Prepper Quote 21 Better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war! 

Prepper Quote 22 It is easier to prepare and prevent, than to repair and repent .

Prepper Quote 23 Preparation through education is less costly than learning through tragedy 

Prepper Quote 24 Expect the best but prepare for the worst.

Prepper Quote 25 Prep and Survive , Adapt and Thrive.

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Is anyone else watching the Las Palmas volcano on Gran Canaria ?

I have had this specific volcano on my watch list for over 20 years, since two documentaries reported on it ( Nat Geo and Discovery).   Dr Simon Day and other vulcanoligists reported that because of flaws and cracks on the side of this steep volcano that if it erupted in a certain way, that because of the cracks and fissures it could trigger an enormous landslip on the volcanoes flank.  And this landslip would likely create a tsunami of immense proportions..

If I remember rightly  the local islands would be wiped out in minutes, the east coast of Africa within an hour, Spain and Portugals coast within a couple of hours. the southern UK and Western French coasts would be inundated in around 4 to 5 hours, and the east coast of the US within 7 to 9 hours.

The volcano last erupted about 1971 IIRC  and has just started erupting again. its destroyed dozens of homes so far, but I’ve seen nothing about the fractures / cracks etc.

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