FEMA’s latest shelter in place pictogram

Bob - May 26, 2021

https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/documents/fema_shelter-in-place_guidance_5-25-2021.pdf

Good morning,

Per the title, the pictogram arrived yesterday.

At FEMA’s active shooter “Fight as a last resort”, I will not comment on “Throw objects … a stapler”.

Remember not to swim through flood waters.

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Fema puts out some good stuff. Thanks for the resource.

 

Good afternoon Ripplet,

Appreciate the comment.

If you want to get on FEMA’s newsletter, go to FEMA.gov and at their top right of heading, is a search engine.  Look for “newsletter”.

I don’t have a regular link because got subscription (no cost) as an emergency responder.

 

Thanks, i’ll sign up

 

Good Afternoon Bob,

Must. Buy. Bigger. Stapler.

Flood waters not a problem – I can’t swim. I love the water but failed pre-beginners (was the only adult in a pool full of children and despite their encouragement, I failed).

Dad didn’t swim either. He crossed a river in Sicily by dog paddling. Dog paddling better work because I can’t float either. Must be genetic.

Back to FEMA, re pandemic, it would be nice to have a graphic for using plastic, tape and construction “zipper” to create an isolation area for sick family members. 

The reality is that getting sick people to medical care isn’t always possible. Our situation here is so bad the ICU’s have sent patients to Ontario and Saskatchewan. We were one of the lowest rates of Covid in Canada and now this mess.

A group of multidisciplinary doctors in Manitoba are asking (read begging) for an emergency “stay at home order”. They can’t treat or refer their patients for urgent tests and treatment because of the number of Covid cases tieing up the ICU’s and hospitals. People are dying now because other people won’t listen.

We just had our May long weekend and from the tourists who landed here in their RV’s and then broke Covid protocols i.e. social distancing and masks, we are going to get hammered by new cases after the incubation period.  I don’t know where they are going to send people.

I am currently laying low and SIP and hoping an emergent medical visit isn’t needed.

In the “Thunderstorm” section, a graphic and instructions for how and when to safely exit a vehicle if trapped near downed power lines could help.

Re “Tornado,” we had an F5 several years back in an area about an 75 minutes away. The senior couple who survived it had taken shelter in their basement. They hung on to each other and the washing machine to avoid being sucked out of the basement and braced their feet against a wall. From their survival, a good idea to have something to brace and hold onto.

Thank you for posting this info, Bob.

 

Good afternoon Ubique,

Likewise, thank you for the comment.

I’m guessing that FEMA held off re rigging an isolation area because this is in the province of another agency.

Emergency medical care is limited here also.

Ref getting out of a trapped vehicle (At “Thunderstorms”) am again guessing that FEMA cannot address this in a wall chart type of pub.  For example, some vehicles are outfitted for the disabled, some for those on medical oxygen tanks, with multiple passengers … children ?!

They do have a section somewhere – unless it’s at National Weather Service – going into detail on this. I remember it was something like jump out of vehicle and land on feet to avoid lightning strikes. I can no longer do this.

Do large staplers …… Here, no one or group arriving past perimeter.  

 

It makes sense that some of the points I raised would be the jurisidiction of other agencies. Thank you for pointing that out.

I think vehicle escape in electricity is holding both feet together and taking small hops. Vehicle escape is only recommended if the car is on fire. Otherwise remain in the the vehicle from what I understand.

 

Hi guys! I hope I can jump in here and share something I just watched. 

Reading your conversation got my interest peaked on the proper technique to exit a vehicle with a downed power line on it and I found this video that was well done on explaining the dangers and what to do. 

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/video/surprising-safely-escape-live-wires-crash-62351834

 

Hi Alisa,

Thank you very much for finding the video to explain the safe way to be around a downed power line in a vehicle.

It was what I thought – stay put, unless fire and feet together, etc…

The video explains everything. 

Thanks again Alisa, this will help people immensely.

 

Good morning Alisa,

Real good. Mega thanks.

 

Good morning Ubique,

One of the “problems” with the guidance from the federal agencies is that it’s sanitized.

In the ABC film Alia posted it’s realistic to see 20 – 30 rescue workers surrounding the car in LA / NYC area.  Here in the country, even if vehicle is not on fire, there could be a small crowd wanting to harvest my supply wagon. How does one say “crime problem” with a southern accent ?

Sometimes the evac is safer than negotiating with those needing stuff in truck. 

 

Good morning Bob,

Agreed, they like things nice and clean here, too.

I am imagining the “crime problem” in the context of Gone with the Wind.

“Frankly, Scarlett, I don’t give a d***mn – I want those tires.”

“Oh Rhett, would you like their bug out bags, too?”

Quotes for today in honor of the wisdom of evac and recognizing when it is the safest and best decision:

“If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.” Sun Tzu

and

“He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.” Sun Tzu

Every battle is won and lost in the mind.

 

Good afternoon Ubique,

Well received.

Sun Tzu has been around a long time due to his books with info that worked.

A colleague of mine from ages ago was one of the “custodians” of Margaret Mitchell’s typewriter used to write the famous book.

 

Bob – Did you see the shout out Josh gave you in the most recent blog post? FEMA issues new shelter-in-place booklet for a range of situations

Thanks for sharing the great resource! Hope you have a good weekend

 

Good evening Gideon,

Appreciate you pointing this out.  Otherwise I probably would have missed it.

Just made a comment over at the FEMA pictograph thread.