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I would like to add another I suppose victory to this. A bit back, we bought a pole saw for the 40V Ryobi kit we have, and with the issues of the current hospital being barely functional, I wanted to have a real, legit trauma kit on hand, at least sufficient for yard cleaning injuries, especially anything that could happen with the pole saw. The kit is inside a sewing tacklebox my mom had picked up for her own uses, before deciding it wasn’t for her. I was able to get a hold of it, disenfect it, and put in one fairly big order to a medical outfitter company and stocked it with most of the things I was sure would come in handy in anything larger than a cut. Bandages, tri folds, rolled gauze, compressed gauze cubes, wipes, dispostable tweezers to clean out wounds, a real CAT TQ.  Aspirin, as my cousin had recently caught the flu and had a stroke and heart attack, so just in case we were in the area and he had issues again. Anyways, the real victory came on the day of a family visit get together dining thing, I was getting dressed and went to go pull out my new fancy Kizer Harpoon knife out of the sheath to shave some fuzzies off a sock, and because of how the sheath is shaped and how I grabbed it, well. I put a big slice in my thumb. I spent 10 minutes over the sink with tissues, making sure it bled a bit to clean out just in case there was anything on my knife, which I’m glad to report has worked so far. Ended up getting it all over a lot of clean clothes, the sink of course, and went through a half box of tissue. Luckily didn’t hit anything important, can still move the thumb in all directions, no numbness. It was of course right before we were supposed to leave, so I’m running around, jamming more tissues on my thumb before I’m able to dig into the med kit and pull some butterfly closures. Used one set to pull it closed and it almost stopped the rest of the bleeding. Replaced those after a few minutes, then put on a fresh pair, wrapped it with some rolled gauze and paper tape and threw a nitrile over the whole thing because we had to go. It ended up only seeping a little bit at the party, but I kept forgetting about it and jammed it at least a dozen times. It was fully healed by the end of the next week, even while doing a lot of moving heavy stuff and using the pole saw to cut tree limbs down. No injuries happened while using the pole saw, except being literally attacked by dozens of flies, with one going up my nose, again. The cut was at least clean so it has healed really fast. It’s a little swollen, but in a “healing the hole” way and not “massive infection” way. I do not think it would’ve been easy to keep it closed and actually still somewhat useful at the party if I hadn’t built the kit, I used to just wrap stuff with paper towels and tape and this seemed much better. I think it could’ve used stitches, but it def saved a trip to get it fixed at a hot spot

Ahh, on a scale of 1-10. I would say between 4 and 5, depending on the day. The household knows how to deal with COVID, we don’t go out, we upgraded to N95s months ago, we wash, all that. Recently there was a city wide clean up and we were able to get out a lot of stuff we didn’t need, so that was a nice little workout and a stone for transitional period; it was a lot of old things that had become fixtures in the houses that we finally got rid of. It does feel like I’m chasing my own tail more this last month though, especially with food. Family visited and had a sit down and eat get together, thankfully nobody got sick. We got a lot of food left over from that as well, but because of the week of cleaning before company, we barely had any reserves left to keep it together. We then had the clean out week, I was doing most of the work of kicking out the desks, tree branches and the other bits.  It was nice to be moving again ,but planning has become a bad practice with my mom, so I was skimping by on Soylents and fiber gummies for most of the week. That all rolled over into the next week, I’m still reeling form that I think, like I said, no planning food but still being pushed to clean and do things has been absolutely maddening. Tht mixed with the constant unnessesary bickering because of lack of food, I’m just taken aback almost everyday the last week. The mismanagement of my mother’s whatever brain thing going unfettered and her not even being aware of it, along with my own similar issues compunding everything, and the deepening of my own mental illness, it’s been annoying. Frustrating. I don’t have energy to even get up and do anything to get the stress down, which is terrible. Have a lot of things I have plenty of time to go back to and I’m not able to because every day is a toss up of what to eat, combined with a lot of I dunno answers. There’s also a lot of issues with a local hospital, just absurd the situation with that. Plus the inflation/supply is worrying for winter, I feel like it’ll be bad. I can’t get work because my current degree in Lab Tech needs in person clinical rotations, which the one hospital aforementioned, likely wouldn’t be able to do and be a continuin hot bed for COVID and anything else. Didn’t have the time to deal with classes either, so I’m short any money that I would usually put towards larger prepping items like water jugs, a cheaper multitool or used SAK for my carving kit, boots, disenfectant wipes, and the like. Then the little things, like not being able to walk through the house normally because there’s so much crap in the way, carcinization is inveitable when every time you move between rooms, you have to walk sideways. Then we had fruit flies in the compost, and I am constantly assaulted by them landing on all of my clean surfaces and items. There were some real big flies but they at least got stuck in the window, I hope. Of course, as I type that, one of them got out and its going around. Barely have any rubbing alcohol left to spray them too.  Also the hand santizer case we recenty cracked has some denatured alcohol in it that wasn’t properly filtered, so it smells like rotting citrus. Then the list for winter prep is really big, like I said I think it’ll be a bad one. I feel more I know what we need than before, but it’s still a long list of things to do. Lot of climbing work too, shame we barely have a hospital. We also got rid of the bottled water we had, it was all out of date but didn’t go to waste at least. We have a couple of 5 gallon military water cans I’ve been meaning to wash out and fill from maybe a whole year already ago. We have propane in green bottles, recently picked up some small and large jugs of regular denatured alchol, Soylent is built up to 3 cases, the battery packs all work fine, solar panels are known to work, have a few alcohol stoves, a nice cook pot for those but also a camping burner for regular pans. a first aid kit that’s done quite well so far. I know I need to pivot from trying to become a lab tech to something else, currently trying to get paid as a caretaker for my mom but that’s taking forever to start. I’m kind of glad I didn’t do a class this semester, there’s so much just constantly happening. I’ve even stopped going on social medias as much, since I mostly just doom scroll anyway. At least music still helps, somewhat. Plus, the leg I injured the knee on almost a year ago is starting to strengthen up and get thicker again, so its not all horrible, but damn, it’s a lot.

One of the downsides of living in an older earthen house is there’s no AC, so it wouldn’t hurt anyway. The upside is older houses work with less modern convenience, so it’s going to perform better in that way. So I think the household already operates in a way conductive to power not being a total necessity. It would end up in a multi prong approach of improving the house insulation, improving personal local insulation or cooling, and also where applicable, getting used to the temperatures directly, though that isn’t always possible. I think planning to not have any ability electrically or gas wise to heat or cool is a realistic circumstance. Unfortunate, really that the systemic foolishness puts everyone forced into it to have to prepare for such problems. Going over the house with caulking if you own it or get permission would really help keep the heat in or out; much like a drink cooler, keeping energy from moving from high to low is the critical factor in maintaining temperature. A couple years ago, I caulked up a very leaky screen door frame that let rain inside, an equally leaky window frame, and the house became vastly easier to heat, as the cold wind wouldn’t blow into the heater, needing less burn time. Cost went down. Another Moderately easy way to keep air out would be door baffles. They go under the door and fill in the space between the door and the frame. Towels can work over it if it’s not wide enough like ours is. This also falls in with foam strip tape you can put in door frames to really seal up a door. Maybe not all the way so air can get in, but the bottom quarter can keep out so much cold. And bugs. I keep forgetting to do the foam for winter but just taping cardboard over the huge gap of the front door makes a difference. Window treatments can help reflect heat either way, keep it in in cold, out in heat. Plus bubble wrap will add extra insulation to single pane windows cheaply. Foam either sprayed in or expanded foam like pipe insulation stuffed into gaps of windows inside can also keep that extra air leak down. Hopefully all of that together would improve a house or apartment enough to cut down costs in general. A lot can also be done in the personal space. Battery powered fans to move the cool air over you instead of just sitting in it. Possibly even use that in winter to move warm air from around a heat source around the room so it doesn’t have to heat up one corner. They have heater specific fans that have a thermo something that generates electricity when heated, so as the heater is on, it warms up and starts pushing warm air out instead of just up. Ceiling fans can be reversed to push warm air back down instead of sitting up on the ceiling. Getting nice comfy cotton and linen for summer would be nice. I have a lot of short shorts and cargo shorts that really help with the cooling. Same with cool weather, I have a lot of nice jackets that are so nice to sit around in and like you, a vest. Blanket and pillow weather as well. Then I think a nice thing to do if possible, is get used to the temperatures. Some folks do have heat regulating issues, especially now with COVID being entrenched and messing with people’s lives, so that’s not always possible. But going out in reasonable clothing and doing light work a few times a week in the temps can really help your body acclimate. It seems much more helpful in the heat, as moving helps get you sweating and actually trying to stay cool, and in cooler temps, keep you burning energy to stay warm. Then ultimately, what we all know and love, the emergency preps. Without power and gas, I like to think of grid down situations as camping but in a house. You have the shelter, without the fancy amenities. For cool weather, I think having hand warmers, alcohol stoves, propane, charcoal, etc, for cooking are good.candles for light and a tiny warmth.  Having sleeping bags or camping quilts or lots of nice blankets wouldbbe good. Sheets to block off rooms, cover windows for extra insulation. Heat, the same stoves could be used outside to keep the heat out of the kitchen. The battery fans could be recharged through solar. I think the Europe is very moist, so I don’t think the mesh sniper veil soaked with water would work optimally, but in a even slightly cool but dried out AC environment, it could work. Flashlights for cool lighting. With proper sun covered space, you could invest in decent portable solar panels and run all your small electronics off solar gained power from a battery pack. It would work even without power out, save money and build that skill. Of course, maintaining body temp is achieved with proper food and water intake. Active cold activity burns many calories, and heat also needs a lot of calories and salt to stay cool. Water, a given. It’ll be like pre industrial revolution times really.

Waking up I wouldn’t do much else, but I would probably invest in a thermometer kit for the fridge that runs on batteries to be sure it doesn’t get too warm overnight. Seasonal outages, we had one in December and used a camp stove to make dinner instead of the electric range. I think the biggest issue would be just storing food. Probably invest in a chest freezer or empty space in the top freezer to stick some ice packs/water jugs in to give extra mass for cooling. If it was very common, I think I would invest in a clay fridge for at least the fridge veggies and anything that needs to be not hot. More room in fridge for water jugs. The 11 pm to 5 am thing is interesting, I’m already running unplugged at the moment; battery packs I use to charge my phone sometimes, I was charging my flashlight with one earlier, it’ll do my tablet, other light batteries easily. Can charge those with portable panels. If the gaps are really long or in the middle of hot days,  a battery generator for the fridge would be important, keep cooling food. Also a solar system to support it. Hot water is deff an issue, we had the water heater go out last year mid summer and it really messed with my mom to not be able to take a hot shower. I think the most effective way for that would be a solar stove just always keeping a large pot of water warm would be the most efficient way of on demand not cold water, but the stoves and burners could do that job, but then that depends on money and how local supply structures are dealing with it. Also they do make natural gas anything. There’s a reservation out here and they have a lot of propane stuff, I’m sure there’s natural gas versions as well. I get the feeling you are maybe a little worried about the situation that could happen? Which is valid really, it’s an absolutely genuinely concerning situation. I feel like the next few months are not going to be good

I use my flashlights all day, everyday and a lot of the night. I originally got one for working on stuff but it works so well for EDC that it lives in my pocket.  It also helps me look at things, and not have to turn all the lights on at night when I have to go to the bathroom. The little flashlight lamp I have gets used to keep bugs off me at night when I’m surfing the net as well. I also used to use my camping knife sharpeners for my shop tools and kitchen knives. Now I just use some ceramic dog bones, but everything is pretty sharp now at least. Last year we also bought some rechargeable fans in case the power goes out but where I hang out there’s little air movement so it’s on almost all the time. Does great at keeping me cool even when we do have power. We also recently used the mesh veil I’ve mentioned in another thread this last heat dome to great effect; my mom was having issues with the heat cuz it’s just so hot and no AC, so I pulled the veil out, soaked it with hot water, and waving it around cooled it off in a minute. Gave it to her and her temp was stabilized in 30 minutes with just that. She just gets it wet now, throws it over her legs while sleeping with the fan on, and immediately was able to sleep even with the house barely cooling down. We ordered like 5 more, one for her, a handful for my siblings family who live down in the hot and spicy Texas, cuz they just work so well. Originally I started buying Soylent as a snack, and then it rolled over into being an accidental prep food/liquid since I started hanging on to 3 cases at a time. A case is 12×400 calories, 4,800 altogether, so like two days of active food that needs no prep or water a case. I used it a lot when we had a rodent in the kitchen and my brain problems were very high. Would hate to have 6 days straight of it, but it’s quick easy calories. Granted it only has a 6 month or so shelf life, but a case only sits for two or three months before I use it up. Still a neat snack. I think another thing that’s nice is the honing of my critical thinking and research skills from trying to prep better. I got really good at deep diving things and aggregating information, then picking the most important things from it, then utilizing it. The veil is an example, I saw it on a B Thomas video and he was talking about how it worked and it seemed reasonable enough and when there was a sale, I was able to grab a manufactured alcohol stove,a tarp, cords and other things to round out the preps I had, and the veil on sale. It’s results speak for themselves, my mom was able to sleep through the last 95 plus F days easily and wake up refreshed and cool. 

AC? What’s that? I kid, but I live in old adobe so it’s one of the modern amenities I live without, along with a microwave, bed and automatic ice maker. Normally keeping the house cool involves keeping all the windows closed but the mother, as always cannot handle keeping the windows closed because “the air isn’t moving”. So it’s usually hot,, but a nice passive heat reduction is that IR and heat blocking film you can stick or soap seal to the windows. In another forum post about the heat, I mentioned the sniper veil, a coarse cotton mesh that cools extremely well in dryer conditions. Cooling centers while wearing n95 or p100 respirators would probably be a reasonable last ditch, but damn. Maybe keeping a cheap or empty Styrofoam cooler specially for small snacks and daily drinking water so it actually stays cool when the heat is up would be helpful, even in Nalgenes my water can be lukewarm in hot weather even if it’s sitting right next to me. Grab a bag of ice from the gas station if the power goes out and toss it in there and it’ll keep water icey without having to let the cold out of the fridge.maybe a few plastic covered ice cream snacks too to keep up the energy. Otherwise I personally enjoy the modern convenience of lithium rechargeable batteries. Multiple battery packs for my phone with wireless, one for lights and small size rechargeable batteries. And the other for recharging the rechargeable fans over night and during use. Solar panels are a given. I was considering this fan for pulling air in at night.  I think it would work but I’m not sure because it’s a bit steep for my budget. My mom and I both have 8 inch fans from Opolar, hers ossilates, has a timer and has a removable battery pack. Mine is on its second summer and it runs almost constantly,I run it at night over my legs cuz where I sleep has zero air movement, and during the day. It runs while charging so I run it off battery during the day and charge at night, conceptually when the power is less likely to go out, so it’ll be full the next day if the power goes out.Quiet and effective. Plus dollar store hand fans, they work great after you glue the fabric back on. We also have tape on the side of the fridge prepped to tape it closed so we don’t open it when the power is out. It saved us the last time making dinner when the power went out. I need to get some wireless fridge thermometers, there’s some relatively cheap that seem to be a good balance, and run a long time on accessible batteries. There was another forum post about it, but staying used to the heat is also important

I hope I’m allowed to reboot this thread in 2022. First off, I adore Children of Men. It was one of my favorite movies until I realized it was essentially happening. I think a lot of the vibe of everyone in that movie is mostly from a sense of hopelessness, dread; there aren’t any more kids so things may not go on. Nobody young to work and nobody young to pass the torch too, which is just eroding everything away. Thankfully, we haven’t hit that point, I don’t think zika is being as wide spread and I hope it stays that way, but everything else is happening. But we do have less people able to work and more don’t want to work for garbage pay. Skill trades are aging out or getting sick. I don’t remember where I read it, but it was basically that, yes, there’s a war/collapse on. You go to work. You go home. You party. There is still a war on. Outside of the U.S., there are so many places that are war torn or already declining. Mexico. A lot of the middle east. The Balkans. Ireland I think. Ukraine. Cuba. Sri Lanka is in the midst of a lot of things. While I don’t think they were able to have a solid read a few years ago, with COVID running everything down even faster, they may have had some time to plan and prepare. I think looking to them for reference and inspiration would probably be the most informing step. You’d see The next step after what’s happening in the US now, and many steps farther. The solutions and short comings. You could probably reference older declines like Rome and such, but there are modern problems and modern solutions. Like directional long range Wi-Fi antennas in the Amazon rainforest that throw signals hundreds of kilometers without wire. I’m sure in all declines, people were thinking what to do, what to prepare for. They must’ve been successful enough that things continued. It will suck, but I think we can figure out how to at least make it suck less.. I think my great aunt lived through the tail end of the depression, and war rationing. If you have things half decent, and don’t expect everything gold plated, it can be sufficient. She’s still around, she said her favorite food is beans and tortillas and chili. I think the only thing that would be the worst is medical care. What’s not having everything fancy and comfortable to just making do? But without medical care, eeeehhh. Have to bring back the plague doctors.

A few weeks ago, I had fallen into a deep nap, as it happens when you’re not optimized on your food intake. My mom stomps up and tells me to get up! The power went out. Normally we’d just sit around and chat, wait till it comes back on, have a snack. But my mom, not a few minutes before had pulled out a good portion of ground beef. Our stove range is electric, so we couldn’t cook it. Not knowing how long it would last, we didn’t open the fridge either. So I go, oh I have exactly the right thing for this. Maybe last year? I picked up a Gas One camping stove, with all the BTUs. It was kinda silly how we were trying to dig out the 1 pound propane tanks in the dark, flicking the light switch before remembering oh yeah,, no power. I’m afraid of the dark, so verily my light came up and gave us what we needed. I picked up an aluminum camping table precisely for this specific use as well, and we pulled the stove, propane, table, wind shield out. Wiped down the door handles cuz they have store germs on them and we are making food, had a stock of clean wipes right there just for that. Good thing I sprung for the wind screen, it was very windy. Staying in the porch kept it manageable, but with the open grate on the table, it could’ve been too much. Out comes the pot we were making the meat in, and it’s the first time I’ve used the stove which is not ideal as a prepper, but it worked so that’s the test now. I hear a door slam close and the neighbor we don’t know is trotting down to his car. He leaves. I’ve never cooked ground beef so fast. Then in goes the seasoning,  beans and tomatoes. Turn down to a simmer and let it relax. This is maybe the fifth time I’ve ever cooked on gas, camp stove or house stove. It starts to bubble and it’s ready to go back inside. The stove is still very hot so I wait outside with it, as things often grow legs even in the porch. I see the neighbor come back. The has a fast food bag with him and he goes up and in. He probably had to use cash, the power outages always mess with the card things. I take the stove back in and bring all the other parts back in. It only took maybe 30 minutes to assess the situation, react and finish cooking dinner. The power turned back on, so we could have our Texas chili with cheese. We ate happily, and put the cheese away. The power went out again long enough for the food to cool so when it came back on later, we were able to put it in the fridge. It was very cool to have things work immediately and effectively. And we didn’t have to run out to buy food while groceries spoiled. I might need to catch up on my stress training cuz that was stressful, but we were pretty excited after the first bowl. I figure with the power supply issues coming in my area this summer, it’ll be a bit more of that with more fans


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I would like to add another I suppose victory to this. A bit back, we bought a pole saw for the 40V Ryobi kit we have, and with the issues of the current hospital being barely functional, I wanted to have a real, legit trauma kit on hand, at least sufficient for yard cleaning injuries, especially anything that could happen with the pole saw. The kit is inside a sewing tacklebox my mom had picked up for her own uses, before deciding it wasn’t for her. I was able to get a hold of it, disenfect it, and put in one fairly big order to a medical outfitter company and stocked it with most of the things I was sure would come in handy in anything larger than a cut. Bandages, tri folds, rolled gauze, compressed gauze cubes, wipes, dispostable tweezers to clean out wounds, a real CAT TQ.  Aspirin, as my cousin had recently caught the flu and had a stroke and heart attack, so just in case we were in the area and he had issues again. Anyways, the real victory came on the day of a family visit get together dining thing, I was getting dressed and went to go pull out my new fancy Kizer Harpoon knife out of the sheath to shave some fuzzies off a sock, and because of how the sheath is shaped and how I grabbed it, well. I put a big slice in my thumb. I spent 10 minutes over the sink with tissues, making sure it bled a bit to clean out just in case there was anything on my knife, which I’m glad to report has worked so far. Ended up getting it all over a lot of clean clothes, the sink of course, and went through a half box of tissue. Luckily didn’t hit anything important, can still move the thumb in all directions, no numbness. It was of course right before we were supposed to leave, so I’m running around, jamming more tissues on my thumb before I’m able to dig into the med kit and pull some butterfly closures. Used one set to pull it closed and it almost stopped the rest of the bleeding. Replaced those after a few minutes, then put on a fresh pair, wrapped it with some rolled gauze and paper tape and threw a nitrile over the whole thing because we had to go. It ended up only seeping a little bit at the party, but I kept forgetting about it and jammed it at least a dozen times. It was fully healed by the end of the next week, even while doing a lot of moving heavy stuff and using the pole saw to cut tree limbs down. No injuries happened while using the pole saw, except being literally attacked by dozens of flies, with one going up my nose, again. The cut was at least clean so it has healed really fast. It’s a little swollen, but in a “healing the hole” way and not “massive infection” way. I do not think it would’ve been easy to keep it closed and actually still somewhat useful at the party if I hadn’t built the kit, I used to just wrap stuff with paper towels and tape and this seemed much better. I think it could’ve used stitches, but it def saved a trip to get it fixed at a hot spot

Ahh, on a scale of 1-10. I would say between 4 and 5, depending on the day. The household knows how to deal with COVID, we don’t go out, we upgraded to N95s months ago, we wash, all that. Recently there was a city wide clean up and we were able to get out a lot of stuff we didn’t need, so that was a nice little workout and a stone for transitional period; it was a lot of old things that had become fixtures in the houses that we finally got rid of. It does feel like I’m chasing my own tail more this last month though, especially with food. Family visited and had a sit down and eat get together, thankfully nobody got sick. We got a lot of food left over from that as well, but because of the week of cleaning before company, we barely had any reserves left to keep it together. We then had the clean out week, I was doing most of the work of kicking out the desks, tree branches and the other bits.  It was nice to be moving again ,but planning has become a bad practice with my mom, so I was skimping by on Soylents and fiber gummies for most of the week. That all rolled over into the next week, I’m still reeling form that I think, like I said, no planning food but still being pushed to clean and do things has been absolutely maddening. Tht mixed with the constant unnessesary bickering because of lack of food, I’m just taken aback almost everyday the last week. The mismanagement of my mother’s whatever brain thing going unfettered and her not even being aware of it, along with my own similar issues compunding everything, and the deepening of my own mental illness, it’s been annoying. Frustrating. I don’t have energy to even get up and do anything to get the stress down, which is terrible. Have a lot of things I have plenty of time to go back to and I’m not able to because every day is a toss up of what to eat, combined with a lot of I dunno answers. There’s also a lot of issues with a local hospital, just absurd the situation with that. Plus the inflation/supply is worrying for winter, I feel like it’ll be bad. I can’t get work because my current degree in Lab Tech needs in person clinical rotations, which the one hospital aforementioned, likely wouldn’t be able to do and be a continuin hot bed for COVID and anything else. Didn’t have the time to deal with classes either, so I’m short any money that I would usually put towards larger prepping items like water jugs, a cheaper multitool or used SAK for my carving kit, boots, disenfectant wipes, and the like. Then the little things, like not being able to walk through the house normally because there’s so much crap in the way, carcinization is inveitable when every time you move between rooms, you have to walk sideways. Then we had fruit flies in the compost, and I am constantly assaulted by them landing on all of my clean surfaces and items. There were some real big flies but they at least got stuck in the window, I hope. Of course, as I type that, one of them got out and its going around. Barely have any rubbing alcohol left to spray them too.  Also the hand santizer case we recenty cracked has some denatured alcohol in it that wasn’t properly filtered, so it smells like rotting citrus. Then the list for winter prep is really big, like I said I think it’ll be a bad one. I feel more I know what we need than before, but it’s still a long list of things to do. Lot of climbing work too, shame we barely have a hospital. We also got rid of the bottled water we had, it was all out of date but didn’t go to waste at least. We have a couple of 5 gallon military water cans I’ve been meaning to wash out and fill from maybe a whole year already ago. We have propane in green bottles, recently picked up some small and large jugs of regular denatured alchol, Soylent is built up to 3 cases, the battery packs all work fine, solar panels are known to work, have a few alcohol stoves, a nice cook pot for those but also a camping burner for regular pans. a first aid kit that’s done quite well so far. I know I need to pivot from trying to become a lab tech to something else, currently trying to get paid as a caretaker for my mom but that’s taking forever to start. I’m kind of glad I didn’t do a class this semester, there’s so much just constantly happening. I’ve even stopped going on social medias as much, since I mostly just doom scroll anyway. At least music still helps, somewhat. Plus, the leg I injured the knee on almost a year ago is starting to strengthen up and get thicker again, so its not all horrible, but damn, it’s a lot.

One of the downsides of living in an older earthen house is there’s no AC, so it wouldn’t hurt anyway. The upside is older houses work with less modern convenience, so it’s going to perform better in that way. So I think the household already operates in a way conductive to power not being a total necessity. It would end up in a multi prong approach of improving the house insulation, improving personal local insulation or cooling, and also where applicable, getting used to the temperatures directly, though that isn’t always possible. I think planning to not have any ability electrically or gas wise to heat or cool is a realistic circumstance. Unfortunate, really that the systemic foolishness puts everyone forced into it to have to prepare for such problems. Going over the house with caulking if you own it or get permission would really help keep the heat in or out; much like a drink cooler, keeping energy from moving from high to low is the critical factor in maintaining temperature. A couple years ago, I caulked up a very leaky screen door frame that let rain inside, an equally leaky window frame, and the house became vastly easier to heat, as the cold wind wouldn’t blow into the heater, needing less burn time. Cost went down. Another Moderately easy way to keep air out would be door baffles. They go under the door and fill in the space between the door and the frame. Towels can work over it if it’s not wide enough like ours is. This also falls in with foam strip tape you can put in door frames to really seal up a door. Maybe not all the way so air can get in, but the bottom quarter can keep out so much cold. And bugs. I keep forgetting to do the foam for winter but just taping cardboard over the huge gap of the front door makes a difference. Window treatments can help reflect heat either way, keep it in in cold, out in heat. Plus bubble wrap will add extra insulation to single pane windows cheaply. Foam either sprayed in or expanded foam like pipe insulation stuffed into gaps of windows inside can also keep that extra air leak down. Hopefully all of that together would improve a house or apartment enough to cut down costs in general. A lot can also be done in the personal space. Battery powered fans to move the cool air over you instead of just sitting in it. Possibly even use that in winter to move warm air from around a heat source around the room so it doesn’t have to heat up one corner. They have heater specific fans that have a thermo something that generates electricity when heated, so as the heater is on, it warms up and starts pushing warm air out instead of just up. Ceiling fans can be reversed to push warm air back down instead of sitting up on the ceiling. Getting nice comfy cotton and linen for summer would be nice. I have a lot of short shorts and cargo shorts that really help with the cooling. Same with cool weather, I have a lot of nice jackets that are so nice to sit around in and like you, a vest. Blanket and pillow weather as well. Then I think a nice thing to do if possible, is get used to the temperatures. Some folks do have heat regulating issues, especially now with COVID being entrenched and messing with people’s lives, so that’s not always possible. But going out in reasonable clothing and doing light work a few times a week in the temps can really help your body acclimate. It seems much more helpful in the heat, as moving helps get you sweating and actually trying to stay cool, and in cooler temps, keep you burning energy to stay warm. Then ultimately, what we all know and love, the emergency preps. Without power and gas, I like to think of grid down situations as camping but in a house. You have the shelter, without the fancy amenities. For cool weather, I think having hand warmers, alcohol stoves, propane, charcoal, etc, for cooking are good.candles for light and a tiny warmth.  Having sleeping bags or camping quilts or lots of nice blankets wouldbbe good. Sheets to block off rooms, cover windows for extra insulation. Heat, the same stoves could be used outside to keep the heat out of the kitchen. The battery fans could be recharged through solar. I think the Europe is very moist, so I don’t think the mesh sniper veil soaked with water would work optimally, but in a even slightly cool but dried out AC environment, it could work. Flashlights for cool lighting. With proper sun covered space, you could invest in decent portable solar panels and run all your small electronics off solar gained power from a battery pack. It would work even without power out, save money and build that skill. Of course, maintaining body temp is achieved with proper food and water intake. Active cold activity burns many calories, and heat also needs a lot of calories and salt to stay cool. Water, a given. It’ll be like pre industrial revolution times really.

Waking up I wouldn’t do much else, but I would probably invest in a thermometer kit for the fridge that runs on batteries to be sure it doesn’t get too warm overnight. Seasonal outages, we had one in December and used a camp stove to make dinner instead of the electric range. I think the biggest issue would be just storing food. Probably invest in a chest freezer or empty space in the top freezer to stick some ice packs/water jugs in to give extra mass for cooling. If it was very common, I think I would invest in a clay fridge for at least the fridge veggies and anything that needs to be not hot. More room in fridge for water jugs. The 11 pm to 5 am thing is interesting, I’m already running unplugged at the moment; battery packs I use to charge my phone sometimes, I was charging my flashlight with one earlier, it’ll do my tablet, other light batteries easily. Can charge those with portable panels. If the gaps are really long or in the middle of hot days,  a battery generator for the fridge would be important, keep cooling food. Also a solar system to support it. Hot water is deff an issue, we had the water heater go out last year mid summer and it really messed with my mom to not be able to take a hot shower. I think the most effective way for that would be a solar stove just always keeping a large pot of water warm would be the most efficient way of on demand not cold water, but the stoves and burners could do that job, but then that depends on money and how local supply structures are dealing with it. Also they do make natural gas anything. There’s a reservation out here and they have a lot of propane stuff, I’m sure there’s natural gas versions as well. I get the feeling you are maybe a little worried about the situation that could happen? Which is valid really, it’s an absolutely genuinely concerning situation. I feel like the next few months are not going to be good

I use my flashlights all day, everyday and a lot of the night. I originally got one for working on stuff but it works so well for EDC that it lives in my pocket.  It also helps me look at things, and not have to turn all the lights on at night when I have to go to the bathroom. The little flashlight lamp I have gets used to keep bugs off me at night when I’m surfing the net as well. I also used to use my camping knife sharpeners for my shop tools and kitchen knives. Now I just use some ceramic dog bones, but everything is pretty sharp now at least. Last year we also bought some rechargeable fans in case the power goes out but where I hang out there’s little air movement so it’s on almost all the time. Does great at keeping me cool even when we do have power. We also recently used the mesh veil I’ve mentioned in another thread this last heat dome to great effect; my mom was having issues with the heat cuz it’s just so hot and no AC, so I pulled the veil out, soaked it with hot water, and waving it around cooled it off in a minute. Gave it to her and her temp was stabilized in 30 minutes with just that. She just gets it wet now, throws it over her legs while sleeping with the fan on, and immediately was able to sleep even with the house barely cooling down. We ordered like 5 more, one for her, a handful for my siblings family who live down in the hot and spicy Texas, cuz they just work so well. Originally I started buying Soylent as a snack, and then it rolled over into being an accidental prep food/liquid since I started hanging on to 3 cases at a time. A case is 12×400 calories, 4,800 altogether, so like two days of active food that needs no prep or water a case. I used it a lot when we had a rodent in the kitchen and my brain problems were very high. Would hate to have 6 days straight of it, but it’s quick easy calories. Granted it only has a 6 month or so shelf life, but a case only sits for two or three months before I use it up. Still a neat snack. I think another thing that’s nice is the honing of my critical thinking and research skills from trying to prep better. I got really good at deep diving things and aggregating information, then picking the most important things from it, then utilizing it. The veil is an example, I saw it on a B Thomas video and he was talking about how it worked and it seemed reasonable enough and when there was a sale, I was able to grab a manufactured alcohol stove,a tarp, cords and other things to round out the preps I had, and the veil on sale. It’s results speak for themselves, my mom was able to sleep through the last 95 plus F days easily and wake up refreshed and cool. 

AC? What’s that? I kid, but I live in old adobe so it’s one of the modern amenities I live without, along with a microwave, bed and automatic ice maker. Normally keeping the house cool involves keeping all the windows closed but the mother, as always cannot handle keeping the windows closed because “the air isn’t moving”. So it’s usually hot,, but a nice passive heat reduction is that IR and heat blocking film you can stick or soap seal to the windows. In another forum post about the heat, I mentioned the sniper veil, a coarse cotton mesh that cools extremely well in dryer conditions. Cooling centers while wearing n95 or p100 respirators would probably be a reasonable last ditch, but damn. Maybe keeping a cheap or empty Styrofoam cooler specially for small snacks and daily drinking water so it actually stays cool when the heat is up would be helpful, even in Nalgenes my water can be lukewarm in hot weather even if it’s sitting right next to me. Grab a bag of ice from the gas station if the power goes out and toss it in there and it’ll keep water icey without having to let the cold out of the fridge.maybe a few plastic covered ice cream snacks too to keep up the energy. Otherwise I personally enjoy the modern convenience of lithium rechargeable batteries. Multiple battery packs for my phone with wireless, one for lights and small size rechargeable batteries. And the other for recharging the rechargeable fans over night and during use. Solar panels are a given. I was considering this fan for pulling air in at night.  I think it would work but I’m not sure because it’s a bit steep for my budget. My mom and I both have 8 inch fans from Opolar, hers ossilates, has a timer and has a removable battery pack. Mine is on its second summer and it runs almost constantly,I run it at night over my legs cuz where I sleep has zero air movement, and during the day. It runs while charging so I run it off battery during the day and charge at night, conceptually when the power is less likely to go out, so it’ll be full the next day if the power goes out.Quiet and effective. Plus dollar store hand fans, they work great after you glue the fabric back on. We also have tape on the side of the fridge prepped to tape it closed so we don’t open it when the power is out. It saved us the last time making dinner when the power went out. I need to get some wireless fridge thermometers, there’s some relatively cheap that seem to be a good balance, and run a long time on accessible batteries. There was another forum post about it, but staying used to the heat is also important

I hope I’m allowed to reboot this thread in 2022. First off, I adore Children of Men. It was one of my favorite movies until I realized it was essentially happening. I think a lot of the vibe of everyone in that movie is mostly from a sense of hopelessness, dread; there aren’t any more kids so things may not go on. Nobody young to work and nobody young to pass the torch too, which is just eroding everything away. Thankfully, we haven’t hit that point, I don’t think zika is being as wide spread and I hope it stays that way, but everything else is happening. But we do have less people able to work and more don’t want to work for garbage pay. Skill trades are aging out or getting sick. I don’t remember where I read it, but it was basically that, yes, there’s a war/collapse on. You go to work. You go home. You party. There is still a war on. Outside of the U.S., there are so many places that are war torn or already declining. Mexico. A lot of the middle east. The Balkans. Ireland I think. Ukraine. Cuba. Sri Lanka is in the midst of a lot of things. While I don’t think they were able to have a solid read a few years ago, with COVID running everything down even faster, they may have had some time to plan and prepare. I think looking to them for reference and inspiration would probably be the most informing step. You’d see The next step after what’s happening in the US now, and many steps farther. The solutions and short comings. You could probably reference older declines like Rome and such, but there are modern problems and modern solutions. Like directional long range Wi-Fi antennas in the Amazon rainforest that throw signals hundreds of kilometers without wire. I’m sure in all declines, people were thinking what to do, what to prepare for. They must’ve been successful enough that things continued. It will suck, but I think we can figure out how to at least make it suck less.. I think my great aunt lived through the tail end of the depression, and war rationing. If you have things half decent, and don’t expect everything gold plated, it can be sufficient. She’s still around, she said her favorite food is beans and tortillas and chili. I think the only thing that would be the worst is medical care. What’s not having everything fancy and comfortable to just making do? But without medical care, eeeehhh. Have to bring back the plague doctors.

A few weeks ago, I had fallen into a deep nap, as it happens when you’re not optimized on your food intake. My mom stomps up and tells me to get up! The power went out. Normally we’d just sit around and chat, wait till it comes back on, have a snack. But my mom, not a few minutes before had pulled out a good portion of ground beef. Our stove range is electric, so we couldn’t cook it. Not knowing how long it would last, we didn’t open the fridge either. So I go, oh I have exactly the right thing for this. Maybe last year? I picked up a Gas One camping stove, with all the BTUs. It was kinda silly how we were trying to dig out the 1 pound propane tanks in the dark, flicking the light switch before remembering oh yeah,, no power. I’m afraid of the dark, so verily my light came up and gave us what we needed. I picked up an aluminum camping table precisely for this specific use as well, and we pulled the stove, propane, table, wind shield out. Wiped down the door handles cuz they have store germs on them and we are making food, had a stock of clean wipes right there just for that. Good thing I sprung for the wind screen, it was very windy. Staying in the porch kept it manageable, but with the open grate on the table, it could’ve been too much. Out comes the pot we were making the meat in, and it’s the first time I’ve used the stove which is not ideal as a prepper, but it worked so that’s the test now. I hear a door slam close and the neighbor we don’t know is trotting down to his car. He leaves. I’ve never cooked ground beef so fast. Then in goes the seasoning,  beans and tomatoes. Turn down to a simmer and let it relax. This is maybe the fifth time I’ve ever cooked on gas, camp stove or house stove. It starts to bubble and it’s ready to go back inside. The stove is still very hot so I wait outside with it, as things often grow legs even in the porch. I see the neighbor come back. The has a fast food bag with him and he goes up and in. He probably had to use cash, the power outages always mess with the card things. I take the stove back in and bring all the other parts back in. It only took maybe 30 minutes to assess the situation, react and finish cooking dinner. The power turned back on, so we could have our Texas chili with cheese. We ate happily, and put the cheese away. The power went out again long enough for the food to cool so when it came back on later, we were able to put it in the fridge. It was very cool to have things work immediately and effectively. And we didn’t have to run out to buy food while groceries spoiled. I might need to catch up on my stress training cuz that was stressful, but we were pretty excited after the first bowl. I figure with the power supply issues coming in my area this summer, it’ll be a bit more of that with more fans


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