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I watch a lot of webinars, so I end up on a lot of email lists, and any time some kind of “civil unrest” is mentioned, it’s the George Floyd/BLM protests from 2020, not any actual “terrorist” threats that might come from say, racist and or nationalist militias, and the like, which often target individuals or groups for harassment or violence. These types of emails or comments under Youtube videos made me question whether it’s actually safer in rural areas or small towns, vs the cities. And I think for women, as opposed to men, maybe neither cities nor smaller localities, are actually “safe” in the real sense, since women are often attacked by their own partners, or end up being stalked, or other issues, that men rarely have to deal with on that level. Look at what happened with Gabby Petito, living the Nomad Van Life and online, where she wound up being choked to death by her boyfriend/fiance, in a national park. There are different kinds of safe out there. As for protests, 2020 is the first time I’ve been aware of “evening” protests. I always thought they were done in the morning or afternoon, even if they blocked traffic or some other kind of ‘annoying’ action. Though I guess I did a short protest in the evening once, but it was intended to be short and then break up, which it did. These long, extended protests are new to me in terms of awareness. Even without bad actors instigating incidence or violence or damage, the “family friendly” flavor of a protest is naturally going to change and just get weirder the later it gets, probably.  Civil unrests related to lack of water, food, or fuel could crop up here and there. I’m not sure it would happen on a mass scale, but you never know. It’s also possible we’ll end up with people spending all their time in bread lines if they have to in order to feed themselves/their families. And speaking of bread lines, that one protest involving trucks in Canada (many of which were not actual Canadian truckers, 95% of which did their normal jobs), had people using the street as their bathroom and they high-jacked food pantries meant for homeless Vets and the like. And this is under relatively stable conditions, stable for a few years into a global pandemic, that is. My parents lived in one of the cities that had protests and property destruction break out in the evening. They were far enough away from the action to be safe where they were. But they did not like either the violent turn of businesses getting burned down or the suddenly big police/national guard presence in town. Protests and reactions to protests have their down sides. It’s probably better if they remain more local than have people floating in from both sides of the aisle or anarchists coming in all for their own purposes and actions. People who sign up for protests might be told the rules for behavior during the protest ahead of time, and act accordingly (BLM protests were mostly peaceful). Outside high-jackers aren’t necessarily going to come in following the established rules or marching locations, etc.  Mob behavior and mob violence isn’t the same as protest ‘violence’ but might be more dangerous. A crowd that turns into a mob has become a different beast.  One other thing about large numbers of people to watch out for is just how long it may take to travel anywhere, or find parking yourself, or watch out for pedestrians. We had an air show here recently, and I did not take that into account going into the bigger city (I guess I’m in a surrounding smaller city). Once you got near the beach and park areas, traffic slowed to a crawl, and it was in areas I usually regarded as easy parking, too, ha ha. You may think you know an area, but once it’s stuffed with people and cars, it’s slower and more difficult to travel through, and this was on a nice day where people were happy to be there. 

I have a lot of combined interests (plant based diet, holistic health, gardening, prepping) that has turned my email into a Disinformation Pipeline, even without Disinformation Algorithms jumping at people no matter what they might seem to look at. It started right on cue in Mid-March 2020. I am double vaccinated plus boosted with Moderna. Not sure when I’ll do the 2nd booster, or if I’ll go with Pfizer next time. I am a bit sloppier about mask wearing now, and I was never perfect, but sometimes you have to go with Good Enough and not punish yourself for being human. I believe the Swiss Cheese Model is the most humanly accurate, no mitigation is perfect, but use of them all can help plug in the holes along the way. Something people might not consider with Alternative Health and Wellness Based Practitioners, Businesses, or Influencers, is that they have a Business Model. They need to make money, too! And they do it by using Propaganda Methods designed to make people as angry and afraid as they claim Big Pharma or Big Media or Big Government are doing. I had a newsletter that went over night from telling people to do yoga and eat blueberries or what have you to improve their health and wellbeing, to some kind of Emotional Manipulation Horror Show, over COVID19. I was shocked and saddened and angered to see this spread all over the Alternative Health world, not everyone, but enough to make me feel like a LOT of them must be terrible liars or worse. At the very least, they are trying to cause stress meltdowns in people during an already extremely stressful situation (a global pandemic). Gratitude and Forgiveness are good for the soul, but I still hope there’s a Special Place in Hell for people who very deliberately created a Business Model based on FEAR that contributed to the deaths of thousands of people not only in America, but world wide. And they are *still* doing this, and in fact, I’d say it’s actually worse now, intended to push some individuals into violence at some point.  People will have to find Non-Toxic Lifestyle Medicine People to get more accurate information or advice. There will still be the Business Model (this is their job after all!), but it’s so much better if they are using it for good rather than evil. To me, Functional Medicine makes the most sense since it combines modern medical treatments with lifestyle ones, suited to the individual. Some people worry about the A Pill for an Ill model, but then they take 50 supplements every day, as if taking 50 “benign” pills is better than 1 “pharma” product. People just need to be careful out there!  A great bedrock to learn about how Authoritarianism/Fascism works is the old original V miniseries and series. I think I was in high school when I saw those, and it provided me with a bedrock of when to sense something bad is creeping into the world, shall we say.  I am very language sensitive, but not everyone is going to be when the “information” they receive is designed around stirring up their emotional level to a high pitch. They will read with their emotions, thinking that they are the true smart ones. It’s very tricky, and it is how conspiracies can spread, because it gamifies everything in the world. I remember looking up all the Paul Is Dead theories for the Beatles back in the day (but in the 80s and 90s, so more of a nostalgia conspiracy, lol), and darned if you couldn’t hear all the backwards messages and all that fun stuff! But just because you can “find” “clues” doesn’t mean it’s real information. Both the very smart and the very stupid can fall for the same Clue Hunts because they both feel more intelligent than everyone else for doing it. It probably becomes addicting for many. Anyway, Paul McCartney recently celebrated his 80th birthday! Disinformation and Misinformation comes in many forms, some funny, and some very damaging. In a global health crisis, it can be very damaging indeed.  

I now have 3 cats, and figuring out what to do with them will be a big problem-solver for me!  I do have one cat that might work with a leash, but he’s also a maniac sometimes, and likes pet carriers even less than my itty bitty female cat. My other cat is a giant chonker who might be a Ragdoll, but I’m not 100% sure. He might be the most docile, but he’s also the heaviest.  I’m not sure how things work with backpacks, but there are all kinds of pet backpacks available now. Taylor Swift uses a space-bubble style backpack sometimes when she travels with her cats. Cats can see out of the little window-bubble. If a multi-backpack scenario doesn’t work, a tote or collapsable crate might be helpful. I know the hard plastic carriers are generally considered safer than soft ones, but those are also heavy in themselves.  I have seen cats ride on top of shoulders/backpacks and bike buckets for pets, but usually, they have the be the right personality for such an active lifestyle. Some of these owners will also have cats that stay at home because they would not travel well like that, or go walking like that.  I’ve seen the store flat, expandable wagons out there. And just recently saw one that is higher than usual, and I wonder if a higher sided one might work with pet carriers better, esp. if you have multiple cats/dogs/animals or kids to transport. I am not sure what brand the higher sided one was.  Some women might want to run away to Canada or Mexico now, so if they take any animals, those animals will probably be quarantined for a set amount of time. If people go to another country, they should look up the quarantine laws for pets there.  One other thing to consider is animals in very high heat or very cold/snowy weather or wind/rain (hurricane season, tornados). If you would freeze to death outside, it is very likely your pet will freeze to death outside, too. A wild animal is more likely to be built for the local weather ups and downs, but not a pet. 

I have thought about the city vs rural argument, and considered that cities, towns, and rural places have all existed for millennia. So, really, it is a matter of choice for what you want or need, or think you’ll want or need from a Prepping stand point. I think with homesteading, so much depends on what both you and your family would want. If the family is not wanting to farm for a living, or to live deep in the woods, that should be considered. Because I’ve seen that Homesteading show where family gets guilted into staying for their parents (adult children) or spouses give up their career to work on the farm (or, ha ha, the wife does the farm work while the husband works in the city so they have money). Yeah. Please don’t turn family into free labor for your fantasy life! However, if this is something everyone wants to work toward together, then go for it. I’d also get more than one land and water assessment, as some folks end up with bad land for farming or bad water for drinking, etc.  I am in a city and I’m fine with that. I think if I went more rural, it would not be isolated rural. I would not mind something like a tiny home village/eco village, or something like that. Technically, I’m in a town close to the city (because it all blends together these days). And the farm I used to get my CSA box from, also was in a further out town close to the city. In fact, their neighbors ruined a lot of their crops one year due to pesticide blow over (another consideration for a make-a-living farm or a hobby farm).  They wanted to retire in two years, and this ruined their final years of farming for a living. They still had crops, but a huge portion could no longer be used for restaurants, CSAs, etc.  The Virginia I-95 Highway situation (where cars were stuck there for 24-48 hours) in a snow storm, made me think about both winter travel, and how highways can get clogged up during an emergency (also seen in Ukraine now). Thankfully, I have about 3 levels of travel I can take to and from work. If you are in a city that is very highway oriented, thinking about travel patterns might be helpful for future emergencies. Also, there is a man who died in Virginia because he thought he could leave his car and just walk home at night time. He actually was not far from his home, but he got lost and had little battery power left for his phone. He was found dead from exposure a day or two later. Over-estimating how good you are at something, or how easy something might be, can also be a problem for people. 

A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and day to day, without much space for future living. It can be very hard to break out of time and money loops. I’d also say that everyone on the planet can’t go live on a homestead or off grid, because there are too many people (its why cities develop, since ancient times). The Little House on a Prairie was near a town, Walnut Grove, and beyond that, you’d have an actual city here and there. I’ve thought about people in housing units and apartments and wondered about block or building preps (actually providing bug out bags or emergency provisions or safety items) as an individual/social aid. This doesn’t sound self-sufficient, but what it does do is create a web of individual safety nets in time of disaster. I’ve been in an Up Town area, and now I’m further away, but still in a metro area. I have thought about going somewhere else, but I’m honestly not sure what that would mean. I do not think people should homestead unless they want to LIVE on a homestead, and the same goes for their families (don’t turn family into free labor against their will or out of guilt). My grandparents lived on a family farm, but had to sell it when my grandfather’s health made it too hard. So they then moved into the very small town nearby. There are many factors people need to consider about what they can and can’t do at different times in their life. A self-sufficient person might end up like my grandfather, with several minor heart and stroke issues (not massive, but too many and creating a need to retire from farm life). What has put me on Red Alert is Climate Change. The IPCC Report from 2019 alarmed me very much. I also worry about milita violence. There is a very blood-thirsty fantasy element I find alarming in a Radio Rwanda sort of way in America. I don’t want to live like I’m dying, but I am trying to figure out the best way to position myself in good ways for where I am right now. The Unprepared aren’t necessarily idiots for not seeing potential future disasters. They might lack time, money, breathing space, situational awareness beyond current living conditions (whether too poor  (all struggle every day) or too rich (super rich live on another planet in some ways). There will be selfish idiots everywhere, but you can’t treat all people like selfish idiots for not being preppers. I once tried to buy a bunch of things from the camping section at one store, but then I put it back because it wasn’t financially wise at the time. Technically, I don’t have that camping stuff and am not prepared. But it’s not because I didn’t want to at the time. What if there is some weather disaster where I could have used that stuff, but don’t happen to have it? Now, someone else might not even think to get supplies at ALL, and thus not have them, either. I think some normalized public encouragement, bigger personal aid thinking, and considering where people are in their lives will help everyone get on the road to thinking ahead for different contingencies.  One thought for Mutual Aid might be for over worked health care workers during the pandemic. Every state is straining and some of their system and supply problems still need fixing. At any rate, many work all hours, have very little family time, and may have PTSD or develop it in the future. 

Big cities may get help resources first, as they have hospitals, businesses, gov’t, infrastructure. Granted, that all may collapse in such a way that it would take years to fix. But if the issue was not a long collapse, major resources may head to the cities first and rural areas later. How many rural hospitals no longer exist? People need to get air lifted to the cities often times. There may be also be more rural town people dependent on welfare than in big cities, much like the Opioid crisis has damaged many a small town. Just like white people getting food from closed grocery stores (after a natural disaster like a hurricane) are ‘foraging’ for food while black people doing the exact same thing are called ‘looters’ and risk getting shot or judged differently. I myself worry about closed rural communities with armed fascist militias in them right now.  Mutual Aid groups in communities are cropping up. Or maybe they already existed and this is just a new name for it. Anyway, this is something to look into. Someone could always keep their larder locked but join a Mutual Aid group and add to the community that way (donations, volunteering, driving, etc.). I’ve heard some Preppers discuss Community Prepping, so one person may have one special skill and focus on that while others contribute in other ways. The It Takes a Village concept. It probably depends on where you live, who you can trust, and other issues.  City and Country need each other. If a massive collapse happens that creates refugee crises from people escaping cities, then people will have to deal with that trauma. With Climate Change, who knows if people in the woods might end up fleeing due to constant forest fires, mudslides and flooding, or poor soil/water situations. Cities, towns, and farms have always existed. If things collapse, eventually, they’ll naturally reform into these patterns again. It’s best to appreciate what each area has to offer society. 

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I watch a lot of webinars, so I end up on a lot of email lists, and any time some kind of “civil unrest” is mentioned, it’s the George Floyd/BLM protests from 2020, not any actual “terrorist” threats that might come from say, racist and or nationalist militias, and the like, which often target individuals or groups for harassment or violence. These types of emails or comments under Youtube videos made me question whether it’s actually safer in rural areas or small towns, vs the cities. And I think for women, as opposed to men, maybe neither cities nor smaller localities, are actually “safe” in the real sense, since women are often attacked by their own partners, or end up being stalked, or other issues, that men rarely have to deal with on that level. Look at what happened with Gabby Petito, living the Nomad Van Life and online, where she wound up being choked to death by her boyfriend/fiance, in a national park. There are different kinds of safe out there. As for protests, 2020 is the first time I’ve been aware of “evening” protests. I always thought they were done in the morning or afternoon, even if they blocked traffic or some other kind of ‘annoying’ action. Though I guess I did a short protest in the evening once, but it was intended to be short and then break up, which it did. These long, extended protests are new to me in terms of awareness. Even without bad actors instigating incidence or violence or damage, the “family friendly” flavor of a protest is naturally going to change and just get weirder the later it gets, probably.  Civil unrests related to lack of water, food, or fuel could crop up here and there. I’m not sure it would happen on a mass scale, but you never know. It’s also possible we’ll end up with people spending all their time in bread lines if they have to in order to feed themselves/their families. And speaking of bread lines, that one protest involving trucks in Canada (many of which were not actual Canadian truckers, 95% of which did their normal jobs), had people using the street as their bathroom and they high-jacked food pantries meant for homeless Vets and the like. And this is under relatively stable conditions, stable for a few years into a global pandemic, that is. My parents lived in one of the cities that had protests and property destruction break out in the evening. They were far enough away from the action to be safe where they were. But they did not like either the violent turn of businesses getting burned down or the suddenly big police/national guard presence in town. Protests and reactions to protests have their down sides. It’s probably better if they remain more local than have people floating in from both sides of the aisle or anarchists coming in all for their own purposes and actions. People who sign up for protests might be told the rules for behavior during the protest ahead of time, and act accordingly (BLM protests were mostly peaceful). Outside high-jackers aren’t necessarily going to come in following the established rules or marching locations, etc.  Mob behavior and mob violence isn’t the same as protest ‘violence’ but might be more dangerous. A crowd that turns into a mob has become a different beast.  One other thing about large numbers of people to watch out for is just how long it may take to travel anywhere, or find parking yourself, or watch out for pedestrians. We had an air show here recently, and I did not take that into account going into the bigger city (I guess I’m in a surrounding smaller city). Once you got near the beach and park areas, traffic slowed to a crawl, and it was in areas I usually regarded as easy parking, too, ha ha. You may think you know an area, but once it’s stuffed with people and cars, it’s slower and more difficult to travel through, and this was on a nice day where people were happy to be there. 

I have a lot of combined interests (plant based diet, holistic health, gardening, prepping) that has turned my email into a Disinformation Pipeline, even without Disinformation Algorithms jumping at people no matter what they might seem to look at. It started right on cue in Mid-March 2020. I am double vaccinated plus boosted with Moderna. Not sure when I’ll do the 2nd booster, or if I’ll go with Pfizer next time. I am a bit sloppier about mask wearing now, and I was never perfect, but sometimes you have to go with Good Enough and not punish yourself for being human. I believe the Swiss Cheese Model is the most humanly accurate, no mitigation is perfect, but use of them all can help plug in the holes along the way. Something people might not consider with Alternative Health and Wellness Based Practitioners, Businesses, or Influencers, is that they have a Business Model. They need to make money, too! And they do it by using Propaganda Methods designed to make people as angry and afraid as they claim Big Pharma or Big Media or Big Government are doing. I had a newsletter that went over night from telling people to do yoga and eat blueberries or what have you to improve their health and wellbeing, to some kind of Emotional Manipulation Horror Show, over COVID19. I was shocked and saddened and angered to see this spread all over the Alternative Health world, not everyone, but enough to make me feel like a LOT of them must be terrible liars or worse. At the very least, they are trying to cause stress meltdowns in people during an already extremely stressful situation (a global pandemic). Gratitude and Forgiveness are good for the soul, but I still hope there’s a Special Place in Hell for people who very deliberately created a Business Model based on FEAR that contributed to the deaths of thousands of people not only in America, but world wide. And they are *still* doing this, and in fact, I’d say it’s actually worse now, intended to push some individuals into violence at some point.  People will have to find Non-Toxic Lifestyle Medicine People to get more accurate information or advice. There will still be the Business Model (this is their job after all!), but it’s so much better if they are using it for good rather than evil. To me, Functional Medicine makes the most sense since it combines modern medical treatments with lifestyle ones, suited to the individual. Some people worry about the A Pill for an Ill model, but then they take 50 supplements every day, as if taking 50 “benign” pills is better than 1 “pharma” product. People just need to be careful out there!  A great bedrock to learn about how Authoritarianism/Fascism works is the old original V miniseries and series. I think I was in high school when I saw those, and it provided me with a bedrock of when to sense something bad is creeping into the world, shall we say.  I am very language sensitive, but not everyone is going to be when the “information” they receive is designed around stirring up their emotional level to a high pitch. They will read with their emotions, thinking that they are the true smart ones. It’s very tricky, and it is how conspiracies can spread, because it gamifies everything in the world. I remember looking up all the Paul Is Dead theories for the Beatles back in the day (but in the 80s and 90s, so more of a nostalgia conspiracy, lol), and darned if you couldn’t hear all the backwards messages and all that fun stuff! But just because you can “find” “clues” doesn’t mean it’s real information. Both the very smart and the very stupid can fall for the same Clue Hunts because they both feel more intelligent than everyone else for doing it. It probably becomes addicting for many. Anyway, Paul McCartney recently celebrated his 80th birthday! Disinformation and Misinformation comes in many forms, some funny, and some very damaging. In a global health crisis, it can be very damaging indeed.  

I now have 3 cats, and figuring out what to do with them will be a big problem-solver for me!  I do have one cat that might work with a leash, but he’s also a maniac sometimes, and likes pet carriers even less than my itty bitty female cat. My other cat is a giant chonker who might be a Ragdoll, but I’m not 100% sure. He might be the most docile, but he’s also the heaviest.  I’m not sure how things work with backpacks, but there are all kinds of pet backpacks available now. Taylor Swift uses a space-bubble style backpack sometimes when she travels with her cats. Cats can see out of the little window-bubble. If a multi-backpack scenario doesn’t work, a tote or collapsable crate might be helpful. I know the hard plastic carriers are generally considered safer than soft ones, but those are also heavy in themselves.  I have seen cats ride on top of shoulders/backpacks and bike buckets for pets, but usually, they have the be the right personality for such an active lifestyle. Some of these owners will also have cats that stay at home because they would not travel well like that, or go walking like that.  I’ve seen the store flat, expandable wagons out there. And just recently saw one that is higher than usual, and I wonder if a higher sided one might work with pet carriers better, esp. if you have multiple cats/dogs/animals or kids to transport. I am not sure what brand the higher sided one was.  Some women might want to run away to Canada or Mexico now, so if they take any animals, those animals will probably be quarantined for a set amount of time. If people go to another country, they should look up the quarantine laws for pets there.  One other thing to consider is animals in very high heat or very cold/snowy weather or wind/rain (hurricane season, tornados). If you would freeze to death outside, it is very likely your pet will freeze to death outside, too. A wild animal is more likely to be built for the local weather ups and downs, but not a pet. 

I have thought about the city vs rural argument, and considered that cities, towns, and rural places have all existed for millennia. So, really, it is a matter of choice for what you want or need, or think you’ll want or need from a Prepping stand point. I think with homesteading, so much depends on what both you and your family would want. If the family is not wanting to farm for a living, or to live deep in the woods, that should be considered. Because I’ve seen that Homesteading show where family gets guilted into staying for their parents (adult children) or spouses give up their career to work on the farm (or, ha ha, the wife does the farm work while the husband works in the city so they have money). Yeah. Please don’t turn family into free labor for your fantasy life! However, if this is something everyone wants to work toward together, then go for it. I’d also get more than one land and water assessment, as some folks end up with bad land for farming or bad water for drinking, etc.  I am in a city and I’m fine with that. I think if I went more rural, it would not be isolated rural. I would not mind something like a tiny home village/eco village, or something like that. Technically, I’m in a town close to the city (because it all blends together these days). And the farm I used to get my CSA box from, also was in a further out town close to the city. In fact, their neighbors ruined a lot of their crops one year due to pesticide blow over (another consideration for a make-a-living farm or a hobby farm).  They wanted to retire in two years, and this ruined their final years of farming for a living. They still had crops, but a huge portion could no longer be used for restaurants, CSAs, etc.  The Virginia I-95 Highway situation (where cars were stuck there for 24-48 hours) in a snow storm, made me think about both winter travel, and how highways can get clogged up during an emergency (also seen in Ukraine now). Thankfully, I have about 3 levels of travel I can take to and from work. If you are in a city that is very highway oriented, thinking about travel patterns might be helpful for future emergencies. Also, there is a man who died in Virginia because he thought he could leave his car and just walk home at night time. He actually was not far from his home, but he got lost and had little battery power left for his phone. He was found dead from exposure a day or two later. Over-estimating how good you are at something, or how easy something might be, can also be a problem for people. 

A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and day to day, without much space for future living. It can be very hard to break out of time and money loops. I’d also say that everyone on the planet can’t go live on a homestead or off grid, because there are too many people (its why cities develop, since ancient times). The Little House on a Prairie was near a town, Walnut Grove, and beyond that, you’d have an actual city here and there. I’ve thought about people in housing units and apartments and wondered about block or building preps (actually providing bug out bags or emergency provisions or safety items) as an individual/social aid. This doesn’t sound self-sufficient, but what it does do is create a web of individual safety nets in time of disaster. I’ve been in an Up Town area, and now I’m further away, but still in a metro area. I have thought about going somewhere else, but I’m honestly not sure what that would mean. I do not think people should homestead unless they want to LIVE on a homestead, and the same goes for their families (don’t turn family into free labor against their will or out of guilt). My grandparents lived on a family farm, but had to sell it when my grandfather’s health made it too hard. So they then moved into the very small town nearby. There are many factors people need to consider about what they can and can’t do at different times in their life. A self-sufficient person might end up like my grandfather, with several minor heart and stroke issues (not massive, but too many and creating a need to retire from farm life). What has put me on Red Alert is Climate Change. The IPCC Report from 2019 alarmed me very much. I also worry about milita violence. There is a very blood-thirsty fantasy element I find alarming in a Radio Rwanda sort of way in America. I don’t want to live like I’m dying, but I am trying to figure out the best way to position myself in good ways for where I am right now. The Unprepared aren’t necessarily idiots for not seeing potential future disasters. They might lack time, money, breathing space, situational awareness beyond current living conditions (whether too poor  (all struggle every day) or too rich (super rich live on another planet in some ways). There will be selfish idiots everywhere, but you can’t treat all people like selfish idiots for not being preppers. I once tried to buy a bunch of things from the camping section at one store, but then I put it back because it wasn’t financially wise at the time. Technically, I don’t have that camping stuff and am not prepared. But it’s not because I didn’t want to at the time. What if there is some weather disaster where I could have used that stuff, but don’t happen to have it? Now, someone else might not even think to get supplies at ALL, and thus not have them, either. I think some normalized public encouragement, bigger personal aid thinking, and considering where people are in their lives will help everyone get on the road to thinking ahead for different contingencies.  One thought for Mutual Aid might be for over worked health care workers during the pandemic. Every state is straining and some of their system and supply problems still need fixing. At any rate, many work all hours, have very little family time, and may have PTSD or develop it in the future. 

Big cities may get help resources first, as they have hospitals, businesses, gov’t, infrastructure. Granted, that all may collapse in such a way that it would take years to fix. But if the issue was not a long collapse, major resources may head to the cities first and rural areas later. How many rural hospitals no longer exist? People need to get air lifted to the cities often times. There may be also be more rural town people dependent on welfare than in big cities, much like the Opioid crisis has damaged many a small town. Just like white people getting food from closed grocery stores (after a natural disaster like a hurricane) are ‘foraging’ for food while black people doing the exact same thing are called ‘looters’ and risk getting shot or judged differently. I myself worry about closed rural communities with armed fascist militias in them right now.  Mutual Aid groups in communities are cropping up. Or maybe they already existed and this is just a new name for it. Anyway, this is something to look into. Someone could always keep their larder locked but join a Mutual Aid group and add to the community that way (donations, volunteering, driving, etc.). I’ve heard some Preppers discuss Community Prepping, so one person may have one special skill and focus on that while others contribute in other ways. The It Takes a Village concept. It probably depends on where you live, who you can trust, and other issues.  City and Country need each other. If a massive collapse happens that creates refugee crises from people escaping cities, then people will have to deal with that trauma. With Climate Change, who knows if people in the woods might end up fleeing due to constant forest fires, mudslides and flooding, or poor soil/water situations. Cities, towns, and farms have always existed. If things collapse, eventually, they’ll naturally reform into these patterns again. It’s best to appreciate what each area has to offer society.