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Reply to: Dr. Erickson’s viral “COVID-19 Briefing” video is dangerously wrong Posted May 5, 2020

The Italian government did a study. They discovered 99% of their COVID deaths were the rtesult of other very serious complications. STUDY – not media. I only read research papers/studies for information I at least consider. When I have seen such articles in Breitbart – they link to the actual studies. Infowars is not anything conservative. It’s just hype – and a leftwing media scapegoat to pretend only their sources are valid. Here’s the article in Bloomberg (I can find it in any source yo like from left to right of the political spectrum) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other- illness-italy-says And here’s the study https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf

Reply to: Dr. Erickson’s viral “COVID-19 Briefing” video is dangerously wrong Posted April 28, 2020

“we are looking at a mortality rate that’s probably much closer to 0.5 – 1%.” If this is the reason for quarantine (makes no sense and the issues with decreased immunity for healthy people is salient – not to mention antibody testing if accurate enough to reveal exposure- shows the quarantine is not working at all) then we must wonder why no such actions occured with SARs…but even more importantly -= quarantine was based on hospital capacity which was desinged on modeling assumption 3 X your figure. Erickson doesn’t seem to be wrong about questioning quaranbtine, nor about over inflated COVID deaths due to insurance motivations by a nationwide industry of financially strapped hospitals which have every motivation (and admit it) to dip into the COVID insurance money by conflating every death with it. The Italian Government studied their COVID deaths and concluded 99% were the result of other very serious non-COVID complications (Kidney, heart, lung, liver disease, etc). So we know even the numerator is very likely quite a bit lower – or at least should discriminate between COVID caused and COVID related. Erickson’s point about quarantine has not been disproven anywhere on this thread or in the article.

Reply to: Dr. Erickson’s viral “COVID-19 Briefing” video is dangerously wrong Posted April 28, 2020

The author uses lots of space speicifcally debunking the test positivity rate as a measure of the population (good argument), assumedly because the death rate is supposed to be higher. HOWEVER – then the author says this: “Let’s step away from the nonsense Erickson is pushing and go back to the real data. The latest serostudies and the most recent case and mortality data indicate the same thing we’ve seen, in broad strokes, since we first covered this topic in January. The fatality rate of COVID-19 is much higher than the seasonal flu and somewhat lower than SARS. If it runs rampant through the United States and infects most of the population, the death toll will be much higher than any seasonal flu in history.” This part – “fatality rate of COVID-19 is much higher than the seasonal flu and somewhat lower than SARS” WE DON’T KNOW THE FATALITY RATE. By the author’s OWN EXPLANATION of how such a rate can be known (most especially the denominator) – until we know the % of the population which is positive…not the % of the population which has been tested. WE DON’T KNOW THE DEATH RATE. WE DON’T KNOW THE DENOMINATOR.. The only way you can do this without testing the entire population is as the antibody testing went – random large samples that can assume to be a representation of the entire population. That statement alone – puts the author of this article in the same classification he’s put the doctors – shabby statistical references to make a point about the death rate. OH YEAH – and why is this information “dangewrous”? This was never explained and doesn’t fit for a scientific rebuttal. It makes the article look like another media moment of shaming someone. “Dangerous” is used far too often and NEVER explained.

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Reply to: Dr. Erickson’s viral “COVID-19 Briefing” video is dangerously wrong Posted May 5, 2020

The Italian government did a study. They discovered 99% of their COVID deaths were the rtesult of other very serious complications. STUDY – not media. I only read research papers/studies for information I at least consider. When I have seen such articles in Breitbart – they link to the actual studies. Infowars is not anything conservative. It’s just hype – and a leftwing media scapegoat to pretend only their sources are valid. Here’s the article in Bloomberg (I can find it in any source yo like from left to right of the political spectrum) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other- illness-italy-says And here’s the study https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf

Reply to: Dr. Erickson’s viral “COVID-19 Briefing” video is dangerously wrong Posted April 28, 2020

“we are looking at a mortality rate that’s probably much closer to 0.5 – 1%.” If this is the reason for quarantine (makes no sense and the issues with decreased immunity for healthy people is salient – not to mention antibody testing if accurate enough to reveal exposure- shows the quarantine is not working at all) then we must wonder why no such actions occured with SARs…but even more importantly -= quarantine was based on hospital capacity which was desinged on modeling assumption 3 X your figure. Erickson doesn’t seem to be wrong about questioning quaranbtine, nor about over inflated COVID deaths due to insurance motivations by a nationwide industry of financially strapped hospitals which have every motivation (and admit it) to dip into the COVID insurance money by conflating every death with it. The Italian Government studied their COVID deaths and concluded 99% were the result of other very serious non-COVID complications (Kidney, heart, lung, liver disease, etc). So we know even the numerator is very likely quite a bit lower – or at least should discriminate between COVID caused and COVID related. Erickson’s point about quarantine has not been disproven anywhere on this thread or in the article.

Reply to: Dr. Erickson’s viral “COVID-19 Briefing” video is dangerously wrong Posted April 28, 2020

The author uses lots of space speicifcally debunking the test positivity rate as a measure of the population (good argument), assumedly because the death rate is supposed to be higher. HOWEVER – then the author says this: “Let’s step away from the nonsense Erickson is pushing and go back to the real data. The latest serostudies and the most recent case and mortality data indicate the same thing we’ve seen, in broad strokes, since we first covered this topic in January. The fatality rate of COVID-19 is much higher than the seasonal flu and somewhat lower than SARS. If it runs rampant through the United States and infects most of the population, the death toll will be much higher than any seasonal flu in history.” This part – “fatality rate of COVID-19 is much higher than the seasonal flu and somewhat lower than SARS” WE DON’T KNOW THE FATALITY RATE. By the author’s OWN EXPLANATION of how such a rate can be known (most especially the denominator) – until we know the % of the population which is positive…not the % of the population which has been tested. WE DON’T KNOW THE DEATH RATE. WE DON’T KNOW THE DENOMINATOR.. The only way you can do this without testing the entire population is as the antibody testing went – random large samples that can assume to be a representation of the entire population. That statement alone – puts the author of this article in the same classification he’s put the doctors – shabby statistical references to make a point about the death rate. OH YEAH – and why is this information “dangewrous”? This was never explained and doesn’t fit for a scientific rebuttal. It makes the article look like another media moment of shaming someone. “Dangerous” is used far too often and NEVER explained.