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Sorry I’m bumping an old discussion, but I just don’t have much time to be online this time of year. I doubt I’m the only one with experience with wind and solar in this community. I’ll start by mentioning my past comments that the electric grid is badly in need of modernization. Wind and solar are among the lowest cost per KWH to build these days, which is why you see utilities trying to control this space and retire decades old ,less clean generation. Solar -wind is also great for use on the distribution grid. we’re just not doing much of it yet (those pesky utilities don’t like it much) As more and more renewables get added, Old base load generation like nuclear and coal is unable to rapidly ramp up and down to match the variability with wind and solar. What is able to balance out the wind -solar variables is natural gas peaker plants. Think “load following”, not “baseload”. Many places with existing gas pipelines could have small peaker plants installed (a more distributed and able to “island” grid). It’s been a while since I checked, but one of the main midwest grid regulatory associations has an abundance of excess natural gas plants online already, that are mainly used to help provide power during peak demand. This is why a certain midwest utility has built an enornmous amount of wind energy. So, we’re still further centralizing the grid…bad for reliability IMO. Splitting the grid into many smaller grids  and   using load following natural gas to balance wind and solar… even small biogas and biomass plants to help provide load following abilities. You can guess who doesn’t want to see that.  Incumbent monopoly utilities…. I don’t see an improvement happening in this space any time soon, which is why I continually suggest generating your own electricity. Maybe a well, ,etc. Someone probably mentioned that in the selecting a home thread, which I haven’t read yet.


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Sorry I’m bumping an old discussion, but I just don’t have much time to be online this time of year. I doubt I’m the only one with experience with wind and solar in this community. I’ll start by mentioning my past comments that the electric grid is badly in need of modernization. Wind and solar are among the lowest cost per KWH to build these days, which is why you see utilities trying to control this space and retire decades old ,less clean generation. Solar -wind is also great for use on the distribution grid. we’re just not doing much of it yet (those pesky utilities don’t like it much) As more and more renewables get added, Old base load generation like nuclear and coal is unable to rapidly ramp up and down to match the variability with wind and solar. What is able to balance out the wind -solar variables is natural gas peaker plants. Think “load following”, not “baseload”. Many places with existing gas pipelines could have small peaker plants installed (a more distributed and able to “island” grid). It’s been a while since I checked, but one of the main midwest grid regulatory associations has an abundance of excess natural gas plants online already, that are mainly used to help provide power during peak demand. This is why a certain midwest utility has built an enornmous amount of wind energy. So, we’re still further centralizing the grid…bad for reliability IMO. Splitting the grid into many smaller grids  and   using load following natural gas to balance wind and solar… even small biogas and biomass plants to help provide load following abilities. You can guess who doesn’t want to see that.  Incumbent monopoly utilities…. I don’t see an improvement happening in this space any time soon, which is why I continually suggest generating your own electricity. Maybe a well, ,etc. Someone probably mentioned that in the selecting a home thread, which I haven’t read yet.


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